Strategic Conversations

December 25, 2025 00:49:25
Strategic Conversations
PEMBA ON-DEMAND: Real Stories from Physician Leaders
Strategic Conversations

Dec 25 2025 | 00:49:25

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Hosted By

Norm Chapin, MD, MBA

Show Notes

What if the same negotiation skills used to save hostages could help physicians lead better teams, reduce burnout, and transform healthcare from the inside out?

In this episode of PEMBA On Demand, host Dr. Norman A. Chapin sits down with Camilo R. Gomez, MD, MBA, and former FBI lead hostage negotiator Christopher Voss to explore how elite negotiation strategies can reshape leadership in healthcare.

Drawing from their new book Strategic Conversations, the conversation bridges the worlds of medicine and high stakes negotiation. Dr. Gomez and Christopher Voss explain how principles like tactical empathy, calibrated questions, ethical ambition, and disciplined curiosity can improve physician leadership, strengthen care teams, reduce burnout, and create better outcomes for patients and organizations alike.

This episode challenges traditional command and control leadership models and offers physicians a practical framework for navigating conflict, complexity, and change with clarity and confidence.

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Guest's Bio:

Dr. Camilo R. Gomez, MD, MBA

Dr. Camilo R. Gomez is a physician, author, and healthcare executive with a focus on leadership, ethics, and system level improvement. He brings deep experience at the intersection of medicine, strategy, and communication, helping clinicians navigate complex professional environments with clarity and purpose.

Christopher Voss

Christopher Voss is a former FBI lead international hostage negotiator and the founder of Black Swan Group. He is the bestselling author of Never Split the Difference and a globally recognized expert in negotiation, communication, and decision making under pressure.

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